Episode Details

Todoist grew from 200,000 users to over 4 million in three years - and Amir Salihefendic did not hire a marketing person until a year into that growth. The key to scaling SaaS was not campaigns or PR. It was nailing app store distribution: Google search, the App Store, and Google Play drove all product-led growth.

In Part 2, Amir explains why building an MVP too quickly can kill your startup, how weekly OKRs keep a 40-person remote team aligned with almost no meetings, and the productivity system he uses to manage 100+ projects. Scaling SaaS through distribution channels instead of marketing spend is the core lesson for founders here.

Amir also challenges the standard startup playbook on MVPs. He argues that building a dummy solution in a week is not simplicity - it is laziness. Todoist had subtasks and natural language date parsing from day one. This approach to scaling SaaS through product quality proved more effective than any remote team management meeting.

🔑 Key Lessons

• 🚀 Nail distribution channels before hiring marketers when scaling SaaS: Todoist grew to millions of users through App Store and Google Play rankings before hiring a single marketing person. The product itself drove product-led growth through quality and discoverability.
• 🛠️ Build powerful products, not quick MVPs, for sustainable scaling SaaS: Amir argues that coding a dummy solution in a week creates weak products that cannot retain users. Real simplicity means depth disguised as ease - like Todoist's date parsing and subtasks.
• 🎯 Use weekly OKRs instead of meetings for scaling SaaS with remote teams: Each Monday, Doist team members post objectives, last week's accomplishments, self-ratings, and blockers. This remote team management approach replaced most meetings while giving leadership full visibility across 40+ people.

Chapters

• Introduction and Part 2 overview
• What drove explosive growth after returning in 2012
• Hiring marketing late - PR came in 2013
• App store distribution as the primary scaling SaaS channel
• Supporting every platform from Android to Mac
• Complex synchronization and natural language parsing
• Why MVPs built in a week can kill startups
• Subtasks and date parsing as day-one differentiators
• Amir's typical day - coding in the morning
• Waking up at 8:30 and working from an office
• Separating home and work to prevent burnout
• A typical week with very few meetings
• Written communication over real-time collaboration
• Using Todoist to run the entire business
• Email management - Gmail plugin and batch processing
• Managing 100+ projects with date assignments and priorities
• Filtering tasks by day and priority level
• Zooming into specific projects for deep work
• Saying no and focusing on essential work
• Weekly OKRs for team alignment and reflection
• Where the team posts OKRs
• Reading all team OKRs every Monday
• Why written proposals beat meetings for product decisions
• Common productivity mistakes entrepreneurs make
• Making tasks actionable and splitting them into small chunks
• Lightning round begins
• Best advice - follow your passion
• Book recommendation - Jony Ive biography
• Persistence as key entrepreneurial trait

Resources

• Full show notes: https://saasclub.io/85
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