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Ryan Holiday: "When we read a history book, we think it happens a long time ago. But we’re going through history right now, and sometimes history was not fun for the people who went through it."

Holiday, a No. 1 New York Times bestselling author, joins mbg co-CEO, Jason Wachob, to discuss how to remain resilient in the face of COVID-19 and endure the unexpected, plus:

*How to use this time for reflection and personal growth*

*Why communication from world leaders is key*

*Why you should limit your news to what's actually new*

*Why the optimists might have a harder time coping with the coronavirus*

*Why we shouldn't be wishing to go back to normal*

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