Episode Details

Financial markets went into a panic last week over an obscure Chinese tech start-up called DeepSeek. The company now threatens to upend the world of artificial intelligence and the race for who will dominate it.Kevin Roose, a tech columnist at The Times, discusses how DeepSeek caught us all off guard.Guests: Kevin Roose, a technology columnist for The New York Times and co-host of the Times tech podcast, “Hard Fork.”Background reading: 

• DeepSeek’s model has rocked Silicon Valley and upended several fundamental assumptions about A.I. progress.
• Listen to “Hard Fork”: Your guide to the DeepSeek freakout.

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