Episode Details

In this episode, Simone and the host explore the recent controversy surrounding the influencer Destiny. They express their curiosity about why such seemingly mundane scandals provoke strong reactions, drawing comparisons to other famous sex scandals involving public figures like Monica Lewinsky and Neil Gaiman. They delve into Destiny's involvement with a Discord community member, discussing allegations that he shared intimate recordings without consent. The discussion also touches on gender dynamics in scandals, the impact on Destiny's career, and the broader implications for online personalities. Throughout the conversation, they reflect on their own boundaries and potential controversies within their social circle.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be talking about the Destiny controversy, but not from the normal angle, because that is not our profession with this channel. It doesn't fit on people, and frankly, I found the Actual dirt of the controversy. Well, you know, technically immoral kind of mundane for the amount of uproar it's driven.

And that led me well, and more importantly to me, the emotions it drew in myself, this is what I wanted to focus on. Was this, why did destiny controversies despite being otherwise mundane. Gross me out so much every time they happen.

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Simone Collins: Is this a Monica Lewinsky thing?

Malcolm Collins: No, it's not a Monica Lewinsky thing.

Monica Lewinsky, everyone knew why Monica Lewinsky was gross. Monica Lewinsky was gross because Monica Lewinsky was not an attractive woman. No,

Simone Collins: no, no, but I mean people freaked out about Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky because It didn't fit the proper stereotype for that type of scandal, and perhaps this doesn't fit the proper stereotype for this type of scandal.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, as we pointed out, like if you look at the whatever Trump's sex scandal, who is that?

Simone Collins: Stormy Daniels.

Malcolm Collins: Stormy Daniels. Nobody really cared about Stormy Daniels.

Simone Collins: Because, of

Malcolm Collins: course, because,

Simone Collins: I mean, yeah, that's, presidents have affairs with, with famous figures, porn, famous, famous sex symbols. Okay.

Malcolm Collins: Nobody really cared about the, the, the Kennedy, Marilyn [00:02:00] Monroe thing.

Exactly.

Simone Collins: Yes.

Malcolm Collins: So, so that could be a part of this, but we'll get into that in a second. First, I want to go over, because like, okay. Just quickly go over that, like, Well, just what happened.

Simone Collins: Yeah. I'm not

Malcolm Collins: even super clear on And we actually are weirdly tied to this in a way, so we'll get into that. I will note that, like, we have, like, social ties to, like, Destiny's Circle.

I don't know him personally. We, like, talked about wanting to do things together. I know that he's told other people that we have talked about wanting to do things, but he's never gotten back to us. And if people know things about me, there are, there are two key personality traits I have.

One is that I am very loyal. Somebody, especially somebody bigger than me does something for me. I really make a point of remembering that. Then the second is that I am very, very arrogant and whenever somebody doesn't think I'm worth talking to, I become very irate.

Simone Collins: So had,

Malcolm Collins: had destiny not,