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“There is this arrogant assumption that the things we don’t know or understand must be bad, because if they were good, we would already know about them or understand them.” –Derek Sandhaus

In this episode of Deviate, Rolf and Derek discuss the culture and traditions of baijiu liquor in China (4:00); Derek’s introduction to China and baijiu, and how Sichuan, more than any other province, is known for making baijiu (15:00); the history of baijiu, its significance to Chinese culture, and the rules that surround its consumption at meals (22:00); how alcohol influenced Chinese culture and agriculture over the years, and how foreigners have interacted with baijiu (31:00); the challenge in introducing baijiu to the American market, how it has as many variations as different as vodka and tequila, and how to find and enjoy baijiu in the United States (36:30).

Derek Sandhaus (@dsandhaus) is a writer, traveler, and author of several books on Chinese history and culture, including Baijiu: The Essential Guide to Chinese Spirits and Drunk in China. He is a cofounder of Ming River Sichuan Baijiu and currently serves as the brand’s communications director. He is also the editor of DrinkBaijiu.com. 

Notable Links:

• Baijiu (Chinese liquor)
• William of Rubruck (missionary / explorer)
• Marco Polo (explorer)
• Chengdu (capital of Sichuan province in China)
• Zhou Enlai (first Premier of the People’s Republic of China)
• Chiang Kai-shek (Chinese politician)
• Seven Sages of the Bamboo Grove (Chinese scholars)
• Eight Immortals of the Wine Cup (Chinese scholars)
• Jiahu (Neolithic settlement in China)
• Henry David Theroux (author)
• Ernest Hemingway (author)
• Taoism (philosophy)
• Richard Nixon (American president)
• Ming River (baijiu brand available in the U.S.)

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