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Weird Data: Same Sex Attracted Men Not Gay?

Weird Data: Same Sex Attracted Men Not Gay?



In this episode, we dive deep into the nuanced world of human sexuality, examining the often misunderstood distinctions between same-sex attraction and being gay. Using various statistics and studies, the hosts discuss why it's inaccurate to categorize all same-sex attracted individuals as gay, and how these misunderstandings affect societal perception and personal identity. They also explore the phenomenon of Mormon men with same-sex attraction choosing heterosexual lifestyles and the cultural and psychological implications of these choices. Furthermore, the episode addresses how progressive and conservative views clash over issues of sexual morality, personal choice, and the impacts of arousal patterns on behavior and identity.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] yes, you can be same sex attracted and not gay. And it's not even like a weird cope thing. It's just by the statistics, it doesn't make sense to categorize everyone who's same sex attracted as gay.

Because it sort of becomes arbitrary and you'll see this at the statistics

For example, while the 30 percent of males and females we surveyed who found the feminine form arousing also found the sight of a vagina a turnoff, not a single survey participant who found the male form arousing were simultaneously turned off by penises. However, 26 percent of men who found the site of a penis arousing simultaneously found the male form aversive.

But if you prefer the female form, there's more than a 25 percent chance, more than a quarter chance, you're going to find penises. Penis is arousing, even if you're a male,

Baby: which is just fascinating. Like what

Malcolm Collins: the is going on here. Right? Like there's, there's clearly like a system [00:01:00] at play in this way. I love researching this stuff because like psychologists, because they're so stuck in this gay straight dichotomy, they have missed that there is something more interesting going on.

Your entire life should not be oriented around getting off as easily as possible. Like, it is so weird that for progressives, you try to, like It's not a good look. It doesn't look the way you think it looks.

Speaker 6: There is more to life than what turns you on. Sure the path is harder, but we both mean it through this barter. You don't You don't have to do a thing

There is more to life than feelin good There is more to life than havin would This is somethin we once understood You don't have to do a thing

[00:02:00] What could be more important than ,

Simone Collins: sexual arousal patterns

Richard? Science?

Would you like to know more?

Malcolm Collins: Simone! This is gonna be an interesting episode. Really? It was inspired by conversation around a new show called My Husband's Not Gay.

This sounds fun! Yes Mormon Same Sex Attracted Men, or SSA men, who While biologically they're same sex attracted, prefer to live a lifestyle in which they marry a woman and have children in a heterosexual relationship. And, as you can imagine, progressives are losing their mind over this. Where I saw this was in a, a, the popular YouTuber was talking about this called Curtis Connor, who's got around 5.

[00:03:00] 2 million subscribers. So the video he did on this has 3. 5 million views. So, you know, talk about aspirational for us. Right.

Speaker: My husband's not gay. The episode starts with an introduction to Jeff and Tanya, who have been together for nine years, and they also have a son together. And this is when they hear the term that they use to describe their lifestyle. I experience SSA, or same sex attraction. Not gay. All I notice first, a beautiful man walking down the street, or a beautiful woman walking down the street, I'll notice the beautiful man nine times out of ten.

Okay, someone who's attracted to men,


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