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Ep.58E ETH is Permissionless Money - A Talk with Mike Neuder
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In this episode, we invited Mike Neuder, a researcher at the Ethereum Foundation, to explore the evolution of Ethereum's monetary properties. Mike began by reviewing the significant changes in Ethereum's monetary policy since its genesis in 2015, including multiple adjustments to block rewards and the burning mechanism introduced by EIP-1559. He particularly emphasized how The Merge's transition from Proof of Work to Proof of Stake profoundly impacted Ethereum's economic model.
Regarding Ethereum's current 28% staking ratio, Mike analyzed the multiple factors behind this relatively low percentage, including historical path dependency, opportunity costs from DeFi, and validator entry barriers. He suggested that maintaining a moderate staking ratio is crucial for preserving ETH's monetary properties, as an excessive staking ratio might lead to over-reliance on staking derivatives within the ecosystem.
Discussing Ethereum's deflationary characteristics, Mike pointed out that "ultrasound money" is more of an interesting meme rather than Ethereum's core value proposition. He emphasized that Ethereum's true goal is to establish a monetary system with reasonable inflation control and flexible adjustment mechanisms. When discussing the upcoming Proto-Danksharding upgrade, Mike explained how this technical evolution enhances ETH's properties as a settlement layer currency by expanding data availability.
At the end of the episode, Mike emphasized the fundamental importance of "permissionlessness" for Ethereum. He argued that without censorship resistance and trustworthy decentralization, blockchain technology would struggle to meaningfully differentiate itself from traditional financial systems. This insight provided a unique perspective on understanding Ethereum's development direction.
Mike Neuder(twitter:@mikeneuder)
Michael (Mike) Neuder is a researcher and engineer focused on blockchain technology, particularly the Ethereum ecosystem. He currently serves as a researcher in the Applied Research Group (ARG) at the Ethereum Foundation. Neuder holds a Master of Science in Computational Science and Engineering from Harvard University and dual Bachelor of Arts degrees in Computer Science and Mathematics from the University of Colorado.
In academic research, his work spans blockchain mechanism design, financial technology, and climate science. He has published multiple papers in prominent conferences such as AFT (Advances in Financial Technologies), researching topics including exit queue optimization for proof-of-stake blockchains and strategic liquidity provision in Uniswap v3.
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