Episode Details

This episode of The Kudzu Vine focuses heavily on the sudden resignation of Georgia Democratic Party Chair Mike Berlon and the ensuing uncertainty about party leadership. Hosts David McLaughlin, Catherine Smith, and Tim Shiflett unpack the timeline of Berlon’s departure and debate what should happen next. They discuss the two early candidates for chair—Mary Squires and Steve Perkins—both of whom have past ties to Berlon, raising questions about how their associations will shape perceptions among state committee members. Much of the conversation centers on whether Berlon-appointed members of the executive and state committees should resign out of courtesy, stay through the election, or wait to see what the next chair prefers

. The hosts compare these appointments to political versus judicial appointments and explore the nuance of “serving at the pleasure of the chair” per party bylaws. Another major topic is gender requirements in party leadership. With first vice chair Nikema Williams stepping in as interim chair, the hosts examine the DNC’s gender-balance rules and whether situations like this show the need to modernize them. The discussion also touches on Gwinnett County’s outsized influence in state party politics.

Shifting to tributes, the hosts honor longtime Georgia state senator Nathan Dean, reflecting on his 40+ years of public service and his deep connection to Polk County.

They also mark the passing of U.S. Senator Frank Lautenberg, the last World War II veteran in Congress, noting his legacy as a New Deal Democrat and an emblem of a fading political generation. The segment ends by hinting at the political implications of Lautenberg’s vacated seat in New Jersey.