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(130) S2E28 Augustine and Lying
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Quotes:
1: Of lies are many sorts, which indeed all, universally, we ought to
hate. For there is no lie that is not contrary to truth. For, as light
and darkness, piety and impiety, justice and iniquity, sin and
right-doing, health and weakness, life and death, so are truth and a
lie contrary the one to the other. Whence by how much we love the
former, by so much ought we to hate the latter. Yet in truth there be
some lies which to believe does no harm: although even by such sort of
lie to wish to deceive, is hurtful to him that tells it, not to him
that believes it.
2: Some man will say, So then any thief whatever is to be accounted
equal with that thief who steals with will of mercy? Who would say
this? But of these two it does not follow that any is good, because
one is worse. He is worse who steals through coveting, than he who
steals through pity: but if all theft be sin, from all theft we must
abstain. For who can say that people may sin, even though one sin be
damnable, another venial? But now we are asking, if a man shall do
this or that, who will not sin or will sin? Not, who will sin more
heavily or lightly.
3. Apostle Peter had that in his heart which he had on his lips when
he denied Christ? Surely in that denial he held the truth within and
uttered the lie without. Why then did he wash away with tears the
denial which he uttered with his mouth, if that sufficed for salvation
that with the heart he believed? Why, speaking the truth in his heart,
did he punish with so bitter weeping the lie which he brought forth
with his mouth, unless because he saw it to be a great and deadly
evil, that while with his heart he believed unto righteousness, with
his mouth he made not confession unto salvation?
4. Why then do we not rout out heretics, in order to their being
caught, by the flesh committing lasciviousness in adultery, and yet
think right to rout them out by a mouth committing fornication in
blasphemy? For either it will be lawful to defend both the one and the
other with equal reason, that these things be therefore said to be not
unjust, because they were done with intention of finding out the
unjust: or if sound doctrine wills not even for the sake of finding
out heretics that we should have to do with unchaste women, albeit
only in body, not in mind, assuredly not even for the sake of finding
out heretics wills it that by us, albeit only in voice not in mind,
either unclean heresy were preached, or the chaste Catholic Church
blasphemed.
5. But he who says that some lies are just,