Episode Details

Someone I love voted for a different candidate at the top of the ticket. Can we still have a healthy, loving relationship? Can we still have any sort of relationship? Even when we disagree about something we feel so passionately about?

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In this episode, Corey’s lifelong friend, Natalie, joins the program as the first edition of our 'Meet The Majority' series. The recent election underscored that a lot of people we know and love voted differently than we did (at least at the top of the ticket). Those differences often exacerbate unspoken grievances and lead to decaying relationships. The other way to go forward in a time like this is to do the hard work of staying in relationship with each other - not with the intent to convince or persuade or to win an argument - although we can still have the conversation. We can still go there. And we can even disagree. But when we do go there, the practice is to lead with curiosity. Curiosity and not contentiousness. That’s what Natalie and Corey tried to model in this conversation.

01:15 Personal Reflections on Voting and Family

02:44 Leading with Curiosity in Political Conversations

03:41 Introducing Natalie: A Lifelong Friend

04:57 Natalie's Background 

09:56 Political Upbringing and Shifting Views

15:06 College Years and Career Beginnings

26:36 Voting History and Political Shifts

40:05 Reflections on Trump's Leadership Style

43:39 Concerns About First Amendment Rights

44:53 Media Bias and Social Media Censorship

49:28 Political Conversations and Family Dynamics

52:29 Immigration and Border Control

01:02:18 Election Integrity and Popular Vote

01:17:44 The Aftermath of January 6th

01:22:28 Final Thoughts and Future Plans

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