Episode Details

On pandemic & post-pandemic politics.   We talk to Benjamin Bratton about his new book, The Revenge of the Real, and its argument for a "positive biopolitics". What does an "epidemiological view of society" look like, and why should we let go of the idea that unmediated social relations are the most authentic kind? We touch on the work of Foucault and Agamben and why they are or aren't relevant to our conditions and critique "boomer theorists".

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  Come to our book launch in London.   Readings:

• The Revenge of the Real, Verso Books
• The 7th Function of Language, Laurent Binet, Penguin