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Unbreakable Docker, or, elephants, er, like other elephants
Episode 71
Published 10 years, 1 month ago
Description
Eventually, you have to decide how your open source software is going to make money, and your partners probably won’t like it. That’s what the dust-up around Docker is this week, it seems to us. We also talk briefly about VMware’s big conference this week, and rumors of HPE selling off it’s Software group to private equity.
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With Brandon Whichard, Matt Ray, and Coté.
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Can someone explain this “Docker forking” hoopla?
- Coté’s write-up.
- Docker Inc. doesn’t want to be a commoditized building block From a Red Hat person: “The conflict started to escalate earlier this summer, when Docker Inc used its controlling position to push Swarm, it’s own clone of Kubernetes-style container orchestration, into the core Docker project, putting the basic container runtime in a conflict with a notable part of its ecosystem. Docker Inc. then went on to essentially accuse Red Hat of forking Docker - at the Red Hat Summit no less. After that, Docker Inc’s Solomon Hykes came out strongly against the efforts to standardize the container runtime in OCI - an initiative his company co-founded.”
- Re: that episode where we discuss Docker ecosystem challenges: “Yet on a regular basis, Red Hat patches that enable valid requirements from Red Hat customer use cases get shut down as it seems for the simple reason that they don’t fit into Docker Inc’s business strategy.”
- A fight over where to draw the line between free/open/commodified and costs/proprietary/competitive: "And while I personally consider the orchestration layer the key to the container paradigm, the right approach here is to keep the orchestration sepa