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We Were EXPOSED! An Undercover Reporter Recorded Our Private Conversations and Meetings
In this revealing episode, Malcolm and Simone Collins address a recent investigative piece by Hope Not Hate about their pronatalist activism. They discuss the implications of the article, clarify their positions on controversial topics, and offer insights into how they navigate the complex landscape of demographic discussions. The couple provides a behind-the-scenes look at their experiences with undercover journalism and reflects on the broader implications for the pronatalist movement.
Key topics covered:
* Response to Hope Not Hate's undercover investigation
* Clarification of pronatalist views and strategies
* Discussion on eugenics vs. polygenics
* Media representation of the pronatalist movement
* Challenges of discussing demographic issues
* Importance of transparency in activism
* Reflections on privacy and public discourse
This video offers a candid look at the challenges faced by pronatalist activists and provides valuable insights for anyone interested in demographic trends, media representation, and the future of population dynamics.
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Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. Today is a special episode because this was an article that was two years in the making two years ago. You and I went out to drinks with Who turned out to be an undercover reporter for the organization, Hope Not Hate, that has done this amazing and groundbreaking expose on us.
Actually quite flattering. It is actually quite flattering. These guys are a big deal.
Simone Collins: These guys host dinners. Overall,
Malcolm Collins: I mean, I come away with two big, big takeaways from this. One, is nobody cares. One of my favorite things is two years to do an investigation to get 26 likes. That was one of the comments under it.
And I went through every single comment under it on Twitter and there wasn't a single one supporting them. All of them were like our fans or other supporters of us that were just like, you guys are crazy. You guys are the bigots. You guys are the Hope not. He'd
Simone Collins: actually turned off. No,
Malcolm Collins: it looked like that for you because they blocked you.
Simone Collins: Oh, I [00:01:00] don't know how things work. Okay, that explains things. But
Malcolm Collins: anyway so first nobody cares.
Speaker 3: Dodgson! Dodgson! We've got Dodgson here! See, nobody cares.
Malcolm Collins: Just, just, things, you can't cancel people anymore. Like, cancellations are so over. This organization was founded, back in 2004 and really grew to its height during that 2010 culture wars era, which you know The the woke side of the culture wars no longer has the momentum it had back then and a lot of people knew this article was going to come out before it came out because they had to warn us all because It was in the uk and it involved undercover reporters and Everyone else was freaking out and I was like nobody's gonna care I mean, the Guardian may try to turn this into a piece or something, but like on us, they just didn't, you know, they got us saying naughty things and we'll go over them but they're just not that naughty, you know?
So I think the one thing is just nobody cares about this type of stuff anymore. That and the
Simone Collins: other thing is I think that organizations like Hope Not Hate, especially given their tactic [00:02:00] of supposedly infiltrating using their undercover operatives extremist far right groups, as they like to put it by doing that, I think they were trying to reveal this.
Just under the surface, pervasive and blatant white nationalist cabal in both the United States and the U. K. and Europe. And, It just, I don't think it just, it just doesn't really exist. It's not really a thing.
Published on 1 year, 2 months ago