Episode Details

On this Heard Tell Good Talks, guest John McCumber puts his cybersecurity expert hat back on and returns to Heard Tell to talk about the cyber war that wasn't in Russia's invasion of Ukraine, why the online battle isn't going the way most experts thought it would, and the players involved. John delves into how information and real time social media coverage are changing warfare, helping Ukraine win the propaganda war, and how - while the technology makes it new and different - cybersecurity is really just the latest twist on the oldest of human problems. We also ask John as a retired officer from the Cold War era to contrast the old Soviet Union, the current version of Russia, and what the past can tell us about the future.

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