Episode Details

Against all odds and expectations, Speaker Mike Johnson keeps managing to fund the government, inflame the far right of his party — and hold on to his job.Catie Edmondson, a congressional correspondent for The Times, explains why it might be Democrats who come to his rescue.Guest: Catie Edmondson, a congressional correspondent for The New York Times.Background reading: 

• Ultraconservatives immediately turned on Mr. Johnson after Congress passed spending legislation.
• Enraged over the spending bill, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene began the process of calling for a vote to oust the speaker.

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