Episode Details

“What will travel look like after the pandemic? In material ways it will probably change more than it did post-9/11.” –Sean Keener

In this episode of Deviate, Rolf and Sean talk about how fast the assumptions surrounding international travel have changed in recent weeks, and how that has transformed the assumptions of the travel industry (4:15); making sense of the current uncertainty about how travel has been altered by the COVID-19 pandemic (9;30); distinguishing facts from stories while information about travel keeps changing (16:00); and what travel possibilities and travel ideals might look like in the near future (21:00).

Sean Keener (@SEKeener) is the Cofounder and CEO of the BootsnAll Travel Network, a travel media network focused on planning complex, multi-stop, round-the-world travel. He is also the Chairman of AirTreks, a travel network specializing in multi-stop international travel.

Notable Links:

• 2020 COVID-19 pandemic (global viral outbreak)
• Travel pros reflect on being grounded (Washington Post article)
• How COVID-19 will transform airports (Deviate episode)
• What it’s like to travel during COVID-19 (Deviate episode)
• How to make sense of pandemic health data (Deviate episode)
• 5 ways indie travel has changed since 1999 (Deviate episode)
• Monte Carlo simulation (predictive algorithm)
• Indie Travel Manifesto (travel-values initiative)

The Deviate theme music comes from the title track of Cedar Van Tassel’s 2017 album Lumber. COVID-19 episode art was created by Luke Van Tassel. More of his art online here.

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