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Catholic Natalism: Peachy Keenan on Faith, Family, and Fighting Cultural Decay
Join Malcolm and Simone Collins as they dive deep into the world of Catholic natalism with special guest Peachy Keenan, author of "Domestic Extremist: A Practical Guide to Winning the Culture War." In this enlightening conversation, Peachy shares her journey from secular upbringing to devout Catholicism, offering invaluable insights on raising a large family in today's challenging cultural landscape.
Simone Collins: [00:00:00] HEllo. My name is Simone Collins. I'm here with Malcolm and today a very special guest as well.
I'm so excited. This has been months in waiting. We are joined by Peachy Keenan. She is the author of Domestic Extremist, a practical guide to winning the culture war. Her substack you can find at peachykeenan. com. And in addition to regularly sharing top drawer hot takes on Twitter and her handles Keenan Peachy she's actually working on a new media startup called Lost Riviera, which maybe we'll hear about at the end, but Peachy, welcome.
Peachy Keenan: Thank you so much, you guys. It is so great to finally be here. We were scheduling it for such a long time and to see your smiling, happy faces. Well, you,
Malcolm Collins: you were speaking at the pronatalist conference and you were the funniest speaker there. So I am thrilled to have you on. Although I have to say some of our fans recently have also said my wife is really funny.
And I, I, that must be incredibly gender disconfirming for you. Because you know, the [00:01:00] stereotype is, is women, women aren't that, that humorous.
Peachy Keenan: That is, except for the women on, who are kind of like more right leaning, I feel like they are actually very funny and that's why they're kind of drawn into this, I think.
Malcolm Collins: Okay. Well, I had a specific question that I wanted to focus on with this episode. Okay. So, there was a report that came out and looked at the fertility rate of the American native born Catholic population. And, and, and so for For those who don't know, P. G. Keenan is, I think, sort of the number one Catholic pronatalist in terms of like anyone I'm seeing.
And it came out and said that the average fertility rate was 1. 64 in the United States. Now, that's pretty bad considering the report was done in 2008. It was called Religiosity and Fertility in the United States, the Role of Family Fertility Intentions. When we look at Europe, The average Catholic majority country has a fertility rate of only 1.
3. And in Latin America, we've seen a rapid fertility collapse as well in the Catholic majority countries. [00:02:00] Now there have been studies and we know what's causing this. Catholics actually have exactly the same fertility rate once they're married as any other highly religious individual. But they get married much later than all other Christian denominations.
And so I wanted to brainstorm with you. Why do you think this phenomenon is happening? And how can we fix it?
Peachy Keenan: I've got all the answers right here. Hold on. Yeah. You have 30
Simone Collins: seconds. Go.
Peachy Keenan: Well, I'm going to just take a step back a little bit from that. I'm a Catholic convert, but I didn't, you know, I'm not just sort of one of these sort of regular, normal, normie American Catholics who kind of goes to mass at Easter and Christmas and like has two, 2.
5 kids, like that's not me. I'm more, I definitely joined the like more fundamentalist traditionalist Catholic sect, okay, because honestly, like I was coming from a very secular nothingness, you know, like actually like my mother was like a committed atheist. And when I was going to do it, I was like, okay, I'm, I'm in, [00:03:00] I wanted to like do it, actually do it, like actually do the real thing.
I want to be authentic. You know the authent
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