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Antifa: Logistics & Particulars + An Interview With a Former Member
In this episode, we take an in-depth look at the controversial Antifa movement, exploring its decentralized operations, anarchic structure, and the psychological tactics it employs to justify violence. We reveal insights from former members and draw parallels between Antifa's methods and historical fascist tactics. Additionally, we delve into the fervor surrounding conspiracy theories, anti-government sentiments, and the spiritual collectives forming within political groups, including those supporting Trump. Join us for a comprehensive exploration of these fascinating and complex topics.
Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. I decided to do something interesting for this episode. I was like because I've noticed on a few of our videos. I've gone into a topic and I realized that our coverage of the topic is the most thorough coverage of a topic that I can find. And I decided to do the same thing with Antifa because it was just one of those things where I was like, I don't think anyone else has covered this.
You do
Simone Collins: this with your books too. Keep in mind whenever you write a book, it's typically because there's a subject that you don't feel is covered very well by anyone.
Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And so, I mean, I have, I've, I've heard of Antifa as a concept out of all of my deep dives.
Probably surprised me the most.
Simone Collins: Wow. Are you, are we going to join Antifa now? Is this the surprise? No, no, no.
Malcolm Collins: But the left is right. Remember there was that time when people on the left kept saying like Antifa is a conspiracy theory, Antifa doesn't exist. I, I don't know if you remember when this was like the mainstream talking point on the left.
Where they were [00:01:00] like, Antifa is made up, the right is attacking, you know, they're making up this fictional evil organization to attack, and the organization isn't a representation of anything real, and if you talked about Antifa, you would be labeled as a conspiracy theorist. This was during Trump's first run where the concept of Antifa was seen as a conspiracy.
And some people still hold to this line, but very few still do. Most people generally agree that Antifa is a real thing that exists. The problem is, is it's not. But, unfortunately, like, where my research sort of hit a wall to begin with, Is Antifa doesn't meaningfully exist, and yet it does meaningfully exist.
So and we have multiple members are people who follow this podcast or hang out in our discord who are former Antifa members like reformed Antifa members.
Microphone (3- ATR2100x-USB Microphone): This video actually ends with about a 30 minute interview of one of these. Followers of ours, who used to be in Antifa about [00:02:00] what happens at Antifa meetings, the way Antifa organizes and just a general . Logistics. Of Antifa operations.
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Malcolm Collins: And so what I mean when I say Antifa doesn't really exist is twofold. One, there is no centralized Antifa organization. There is no group that has a, and two, there is no centralized Antifa ideology.
Simone Collins: Okay. So you don't get a membership card. There is no president. There's no nonprofit organization. There is no
Malcolm Collins: barrier to entry. Literally anyone can just say I'm Antifa or sort of
Simone Collins: anarchic. I am anonymous, et cetera.
Malcolm Collins: Yeah.
Simone Collins: Okay.
Malcolm Collins: Anyone, anyone know anonymous was quite different. There were some organized power hierarchies where people can go.
And there were like, it might be that anyone can technically claim to be anonymous
Published on 1 year, 3 months ago