Episode Details

Gabe Shapiro, crypto lawyer and co-founder of MetaLeX Labs, joins The Gwart Show to discuss DeFi regulation, tokenized securities, and the future of crypto under Trump or Kamala.

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Chapters

00:00 Start

00:42 Gabe's background

01:21 MetaLeX & Borgs

04:16 Problems with DAOs

09:40 Foundations vs corporations in DAOs

15:03 Well run DAO examples

18:06 The risks of tokens + equity

21:53 Regulating conflicts of interest

24:12 What don't lawyers understand?

27:21 Liquid staking tokens

30:39 Legalities of MEV

36:25 Changing rules

43:25 Governance attack vs code exploit

48:19 People are the DAO attack vector

54:41 Legal risks of single sequencers

55:20 WTF is a tokenized security?

59:50 Bearer asset laws

1:02:46 Crypto corp structures

1:07:51 World Liberty Financial

1:09:54 Trump vs Harris crypto regulation

1:14:37 Regulation = good? umm..

1:18:50 Stablecoins

1:21:50 Does USDC now control ETH roadmap?

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