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My guest today is Dr. Kandi Wiens, Director of the University of Pennsylvania’s Masters in Medical Education Program and co-founder of Big Sky Leadership Labs. But what brought her to my attention is her book, Burnout Immunity, and her perspective on the subject.

My conversation with Dr. Wiens starts deep and goes deeper with both of us admitting to feeling burned out right out of the gate. This isn’t two experts who have it all figured out spouting advice from the mountain top. This is a very real conversation talking about burnout from the trenches. Dr. Wiens takes us deep into the psychology of burnout to gain an understanding of its root causes. We explore why we tend to drive ourselves to burnout, even when we may be unemployed or underemployed. Dr. Wiens reveals how the term burnout is often overused and that sometimes, we might not be burned out at all. More importantly, Dr. Wiens and I talk about the strategies and tools you can use to develop burnout immunity so you can build resilience and heal your relationship with your work and live a more balanced, fulfilling life.

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Here's What You'll Learn:

• How Dr. Wiens personal experience led her from being a management consultant to studying burnout
• How past experiences affect how we deal with stress and also hold ourselves back
• What is Emotion Focus Coping and how we can shift away from it to taking 'control' of our stress
• The root cause of burnout and why it's important to know
• What drives us to burnout (without us realizing it)?
• Burnout versus Overextension and why it's important to know the difference
• How to know your degree of burnout
• What are protective patterns when dealing with burnout
• How we can be burned out even without a job
• What is Burnout Immunity and how to develop it
• How to self-regulate and change your mindset

Useful Resources Mentioned:

A Classic Case of Post-Production Burnout

I Was Tired of Putting My Kids to Bed via FaceTime Every Night. Here’s What I Did About It.

Are You Burned Out? Or Is It Something Else? 

Burnout Risk Assessment | Kandi Wiens

Managing & Alleviating Chronic Pain with…Creativity? | with Anna Holtzman

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