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In this thought-provoking discussion, Malcolm and Simone Collins explore the concept of behavioral isolation and its potential impact on the future of human evolution. They examine the differences between two distinct groups - the technophilic, industrially productive "elite" and the more traditional, less technologically engaged "Bergens" - and discuss how their divergent lifestyles and values could lead to a form of speciation. The hosts also delve into the importance of technological advancement and pluralism in ensuring the survival and autonomy of various cultural groups, and emphasize the need for a pronatalist alliance that rejects supremacist ideologies. Throughout the conversation, they stress the significance of industrial output and technophilia in maintaining cultural independence and avoiding parasitic relationships with the state.

Malcolm Collins: . [00:00:00]

Hello, Simone. We had a reporting team over at our house from France that are doing a documentary. And they asked people, really nice people. Yeah. They asked a question that I thought was really interesting to us. Which was, are you concerned about some groups being like really high fertility?

Are there groups that you want to be lower fertility? That scare you in some way. And this is a complicated question because the core answer is no, not really. But it's important to explain why the answer is no, because I think to a lot of people who are aware of we are genetic realists.

Like I, I realize that there are things that are heritable within human populations and we do have A level of concern where I'm like, it's not really concerned. It's just planning for the future because it's just a truism and there's nothing that can be done about it. That one of the cultural strategies that is very good at maintaining high fertility rates in the world today are cultures that disengage from technology that engage in practices that make them economically less productive because generally in the developed [00:01:00] world, the less wealth you have, the more kids you have and that maintain their culture.

intergenerationally with high fidelity, i. e. they don't allow their kids to be deconverted through xenophobia, through dehumanizing other groups. And so this cultural strategy has co evolved across many differentiated cultural groups. You'll see it in some Muslim groups. You'll see it in some Christian groups.

You'll see it in some Jewish groups. You'll see it in some Buddhist groups. And invariably, these groups typically have much higher fertility rates than the individuals near them. And so people would think, oh then what you must want to do is a lower the fertility rate of these communities.

Would you like to know more?

Malcolm Collins: And to me, that only really matters in so far as you live in a socialist system where groups are specifically building hacks that.

Allow a group that is completely economically parasitic, high fertility. It can be damaging to other individuals and to state structures in a way that is [00:02:00] intrinsically unsustainable and will eventually lead to the collapse of the state.

So people might hear this and be like, what do you mean? Okay.

Imagine hypothetically there was a country that narrowed a group within it out. And this group was incredibly high fertility. But economically, totally unproductive. Technologically, totally unproductive and really did nothing to even contribute to the country's, military or defensibility, right?

This group had Triple the fertility of their neighboring groups. Eventually, they would be the majority population in that country. Then the country intrinsically collapses because that country then cannot be, it cannot produce the additional goods and the additional wealth and the additional technology.

Which is being siphoned by this high fertility community. And so either it ends this syste