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New Stats Show Incels are a Far Left Movement
In this thought-provoking episode, Malcolm and Simone dive deep into the world of incels, discussing a recent study that challenges the common perception of incels as predominantly right-wing. They explore the inherently leftist ideology of the incel movement, the dehumanization of incels by the left, and the role of female interests in shaping the left's stance on the issue. The conversation also touches on the historical context of how societies have dealt with incels, the potential dangers posed by the incel community, and the importance of addressing the root causes of the incel phenomenon. Join them as they offer insights on the complexities of the incel issue and its implications for modern society.
Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Simone. It is great to be chatting with you today. I always love when statistics and new studies surprise me with information and help change my world perspective. And one such study came out recently on incels.
And what it showed, . Many commenters have suggested a link between incels and the far right. However, using Pew Research's ideological consistency scale, this survey found that incels were slightly left of center on average.
The exception was those who agreed with violence against individuals that cause incels harm or Often justified, these individuals were right leaning, though not extremely so.
They held right wing opinions for 60 percent of the items in the ideological consistency scale, compared to 45 percent for the rest of the sample.
Would you like to know more?
Malcolm Collins: And this is really interesting to me because, and this is one of those things where, you know, the left, they just take a group that's bad, and then they pretend that they are overwhelmingly right leaning. You know, as we always point out, until Obama was elected by [00:01:00] 538 polling, so mainstream Nate Silver polling White Democrats were less likely to vote for a black candidate as president than Republicans.
So there is not a racist voting block on the right that doesn't exist on the left at about equal proportions. And it's the same with incels we're seeing here. Incels exist across parties. Generally, they're slightly on the left. But when they are more violent, which I guess would make sense if they're interested in getting guns and stuff like that and using them, they're going to come up as more on the right.
But
I
Simone Collins: think that's the thing. It's when you see this in I can't use the word people ending themselves stats where women are far less likely to successfully end themselves. Whereas men successfully end themselves. I think a lot of it all comes down to Group efficacy. And I think that conservative groups have higher levels of efficacy and following through on things that are to them.
Well, I think
Malcolm Collins: it's more than that. I think if you think about what in cellism actually is, as you think about the ideology of the movement, it is an intrinsically far left [00:02:00] leaning ideology. So let's talk about this and let's talk about why they're not showing up as far left in the data. And just slightly left leaning.
So specifically what an incel believes is that they are owed something by society that they are not getting from society and that the government should play a role in getting them that thing. If you look within incel circles, You know, what do they ask for? What they ask for is government mandated prostitution and government paid, like they ask for, and you, you see this within social communities, they want the government to find a way to deliver sex to them or to impose social norms Like forced marriages and stuff like that, which would give them access to sex, which are both incredibly left leaning ideas.
The idea that you are owed something by your fellow man, and that those who have a poverty of
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