Episode Details

How can we build a more united climate movement? What should be the role of geoengineering? And how can indigenous voices be brought into the climate conversation?

Bryony puts these questions to model, actor, director, ambassador and businesswoman, Lily Cole. Lily's career began at age 14 when she was recruited as a model, pitching her into the high-octane world of fashion. She remains a self-confessed geek, however, and completed her studies including a degree from Cambridge University. In 2016, she started researching a book ‘Who Cares Wins,’ which was published in 2020. 

In both the book and the podcast that followed, she gives a platform to a wide range of people, always seeking to see both sides of the many debates, and also to inspire optimism thanks to the wide range of solutions that are out there, be they technologically driven, or founded on ancient traditions and wisdoms.

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Links and more:

• Lily’s website and company
• Who Cares Wins: Lily’s book and podcast
• The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt
• The Dawn of Everything by David Graeber and David Wengrow
• Sky Diamond — Carbon capture diamonds
• Bryony’s recommended documentary on diamonds