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Back to Episodes88. Can We Positively Engage Culture in a Negative World? | with Bethel McGrew, aka Esther O’Reilly
Description
Christians love engaging fantastical worlds, right down to the real world Jesus calls us to serve. But what kind of world do we truly engage? Do we live in an amazing “positive world,” where most people think Christianity is great? Or do we live in a world that’s neutral toward Christianity—or even a world where most people despise our faith? Our answer helps us stay realistic yet optimistic about how we best engage stories in the real world. Today’s special guest, a recently unmasked “superhero” from the intellectual light web, joins our quest.
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Episode links
- L. G. McCary’s That Pale Host update—and get the book’s first edition this month!
- Aaron Renn’s “Welcome to the Negative World: Why We Need American Reformer“
- Author Michael O’Brien’s Catholic end-times novels series: Children of the Last Days
- “Wokal Distance” on Twitter about contemporary young people’s real challenges to Christianity

Introducing writer Bethel McGrew
Bethel McGrew is a high school teacher, math Ph.D., and widely published freelance writer. Her work has appeared in WORLD Opinions, First Things, National Review, The Spectator, and many other national and international outlets. Her Substack, Further Up, is one of the top paid newsletters in “Faith & Spirituality” on the platform. She has also contributed to two essay anthologies on Jordan Peterson. When not writing social criticism, she enjoys writing about literature, film, music, and history. Her edited collection of the World War I letters of Canon A.E. Laurie is forthcoming from the U.K.’s Helion Press.
- Follow Bethel McGrew on Twitter @BMcGrewvy
Concession stand
- This episode will touch on political issues. We know “political” just = “public.”
- Like our other popular culture–based episodes, this one