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Malcolm and Simone explain why they intentionally court controversy to spread awareness of demographic collapse, even though it can be costly. Controversy acts as "human clickbait" to draw attention, then their genuine wholesomeness converts people to the cause. They share examples of how negativity actually validates ideas to conservative/moderate audiences. Though they lose friends and receive hate, demographic collapse is now mainstream. Using themselves as "meme fodder" pierces bubbles, like how Trump used media bias through controversy. Spreading ideas through hate is effective, but know the personal reputation costs. In the end, saving humanity is worth some family sacrifice.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Now, this issue, because it counters the mainstream narratives around what people should care about, is considered a right wing issue.

That's, that's not, I think, necessarily because it's a right wing issue, it's because the left control all centers of power today, so if you are saying anything that challenges the dominant narrative within society, you are considered a far right activist within today's, informational ecosystem. So we're like, okay, we can use this to our advantage. In fact, negativity, the press shows us in a way that's us with conservative and moderate. Audiences, they see skepticism about reasonable causes as validation of those causes, realism, efficacy, and, and grassroots nature

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Simone Collins: You look like you're actually in some kind of equivalent of a man cave, just like sitting there in the darkness. And like, here I am with my candles over there and the, you know, windows and like, there you are. It looks like

Malcolm Collins: it's two different times [00:01:00] a day in our two areas. We're in different

Simone Collins: time zones.

Malcolm Collins: But I do like my man caves. You know that. I love the dark.

Simone Collins: Yeah, you love the darkness. And like defensible corners, you know? Like, Yes, yes. You gotta know

Malcolm Collins: defensibility is important to me in terms of being comfortable in a room. Yeah, even if we're

Simone Collins: like sitting down at a restaurant, you're gonna want the defensible

Malcolm Collins: seat.

Well, you know, that's what so much of feng shui really is. It's just defensibility.

Simone Collins: Hmm. And

Malcolm Collins: that's why it feels like it works for people because what they're really sensing is how defensible is the space I'm looking at. I mean, I think a lot of aesthetics fall into this category as well. That is a very interesting take.

When people are like, I like this view and it's like, well, what type of views do you like? You know, it's like, well, I like a view where I can see a long way. And there's water, like streams present so it's like, oh, so what you like is a freshwater supply in a highly defensible area where you're on some sort of high ground, [00:02:00] right?

And they're like, no, no, no, no, I also like other views, like, I love views of the ocean. It's like, oh, okay. So you love views of an area where you have you know, a lot of food and, and likely you know, so much of human aesthetics and human pre programming, it's just around defensibility and the things that would have

Simone Collins: caused Will I survive here?

And Yeah. Yeah, that includes both, will I survive if someone tries to attack me, and also, are there natural resources here that will sustain me? And that's beautiful. Hooray!

Malcolm Collins: But we want to talk about something else today, not about human evolution, which is one of our big things!

Simone Collins: But instead, we