Episode Details

Former pastor at Seacoast Church and Lead Pastor at Mosaic Church in Charlotte, Naeem Fazal was born in Kuwait and is an Ex-Muslim.  He wrote a book with the very title:  Ex-Muslim.  He joins Pastor Greg Surratt and Joey Svendsen to discuss the war in Israel.  The three discuss various sentiments many Christians have  toward Israel  (for some, these sentiments are sacred) and how these thoughts can potentially be a distraction from the church's primary purpose in this world.

Along the way, the three discuss evil, including what the church's role is, in combatting it.  One reads in the bible that "we wrestle not against flesh and blood"  (Ephesians 6:12) as well as Jesus' command to "love enemies."  But there seems to be times in which violence is unavoidable, given the deeper aim at loving and protecting the oppressed.  How does one navigate the tension of  hating evil while still loving enemies? (Matthew 5:43-47).

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Naeem Fazal / Instagram / Book / Church / Podcast
Greg Surratt / Instagram / Endurance Factor / The Pastors Collective
Joey Svendsen, host / Instagram

Executive Producer: Josh Surratt
Producer/Editor: Joey Svendsen
Sound Engineer/Editor: JT Price
Sound Engineer: Katelyn Vandiver

Music, including theme song: Joel T. Hamilton Music

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Producer/Editor/host: Joey Svendsen
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