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I was in the army CrossFit was like everywhere. You deploy to Afghanistan and there are bumper plates. I could literally walk to the CrossFit gym over lunch.

It was 10 years, seven years of really competitive and hard.

Honestly was arrogant. I felt like I had kind of figured it out with rock climbing.

I was training all the time. Like all of my free time was spent training. I have Saturdays I'd spend, you know, three, four or five, six hours in the gym. I just wanted to be in the gym all the time.

It was right after Froning's heyday in Carson, California. That was like my religion. It was like, no, I just need to train more. Like I just need to train more.

I'd watch day in the life of Rich and be like, okay, the closer I can make my life to that, then  the more like Rich I'll be.

I was stubborn and I insisted that I could figure it out on my own. I was bouncing around from program to program.

I was reading things online.

It wasn't until, doing that for a few years that I was like, maybe this just isn't, you know, maybe there's just, I'm not progressing at the rate that I think I could. 

The transition was when I hired my first coach. That's when my rate of learning and growth just accelerated like crazy.