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Back to EpisodesExploitation of Humans by AI Assistants | A Conversation with Matthew Canham and Ben Sawyer | Las Vegas Black Hat 2023 Event Coverage | Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast With Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli
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Guests:
Matthew Canham, CEO, Beyond Layer Seven, LLC
On Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-c-971855100/
Website | https://drmatthewcanham.com/
Ben Sawyer, Professor, University of Central Florida [@UCF]
On Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/bendsawyer/
On Twitter | https://twitter.com/bendsawyer
Website | https://www.bendsawyer.com/
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Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast and Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
Welcome to a fascinating new episode where we delve deep into the confluence of cybersecurity, psychology, and philosophy in the realm of artificial intelligence. In anticipation of their insightful presentation at Black Hat Las Vegas 2023, our hosts Marco and Sean had an engaging conversation with Ben and Matthew, shedding light on the astonishingly rapid developments of AI and the accompanying cybersecurity implications.
Within the last few months, the GPT-4 and ChatGPT language models have captivated the world. There is a growing perception that the line between AI and sentience is becoming increasingly blurred, nudging us into uncharted territories. However, one must question if this is genuinely the case, or merely what we want or are predisposed to perceive.
Ben and Matthew's research outlines the fundamental "cognitive levers" available to manipulate human users, a threat vector that is more nuanced and insidious than we ever imagined.
In their upcoming Black Hat talk, they aim to reveal how AI can exploit our cognitive biases and vulnerabilities, reshaping our perceptions and potentially causing harm. From social engineering to perceptual limitations, our digital realities are at a risk we have never seen before.
Listen in as Marco and Sean explore a captivating debate around the nature of reality in the context of our interaction with AI. What we think is real, may not be real after all. How does that affect us as we continue to interact with increasingly sophisticated AI? In a world that often feels like a simulation, are we falling prey to AI's exploitation of our human cognitive operating rules?
Marco and Sean also introduce us to the masterminds behind this groundbreaking research, Ben Sawyer, with his background in Applied Experimental Psychology and Industrial Engineering, and Matthew Canham, whose work spans cognitive neuroscience and human interface design. Their combined expertise results in a comprehensive exploration of the intersection betw