Episode Details

Summer arrives at Says Who and Maureen and Dan dream of bobbing in the dappled sunshine off the Florida coast.

But they're not the only ones setting their sights on a little summertime outing. The president went off to see the world and, thanks to world leaders accommodating his beefy dietary needs, possibly spent 10 days without pooping. But he did get to have a friendly visit with the Pope, touch a glow orb, see Saudi Arabian country superstar Toby Keith (wait, that's not right), and have his tiny hands crushed a few dozen times in handshake wars. Plus, we all got a vacation from his Twitter account for a week or so. Felt great, didn't it?

In addition, this episode really does step on to a boat and moors it right outside Mar a Lago when Jeff Larson, Surya Mattu, and Julia Angwin of ProPublica and Gizmodo join to discuss their watery investigation into the Trump Organization's cyber security. This interview is even more delightful than that sounds.

So ahoy there matey, it's time to walk the plank.

SHOW NOTES:

• Go read the article we discussed in our interview spot: Any Half-Decent Hacker Could Break Into Mar-a-Lago it is amazing.

• We were joined today by Jeff Larson, Surya Mattu, and Julia Angwin. They are all great.

• Pay for journalism.

• The article where Trump talks about Melania's amazing imagination by making meat sauce for spaghetti is Golf, Business, and Meatloaf

Your Intrepid Hosts: Maureen Johnson and Dan Sinker

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