Episode Details

A president who governed a divided country has much to teach us in a twenty-first-century moment of polarization and political crisis. Hated and hailed, excoriated, and revered, Abraham Lincoln was at the pinnacle of American power when implacable secessionists gave no quarter in a clash of visions bound up with money, race, identity, and faith. Celebrated historian and writer Jon Meacham joins David M. Rubenstein in a conversation on the power of Lincoln’s story to illustrate the ways and means of politics in a democracy, the roots and durability of racism, and the capacity of conscience to shape events.
Recorded on December 9, 2022