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“How you care for this moment matters. It matters today, tomorrow, and a thousand years from now.” — Ari Wallach

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EPISODE SUMMARY:

How do we connect with other humans? How do we connect with ourselves?

Today, I talk with Ari Wallach, a futurist and social systems strategist. He is the Founder and Executive Director of Longpath Labs, an initiative focused on bringing long-term thinking and coordinated behavior to the individual, organizational, and societal realms in order to ensure humanity flourishes on an ecologically-thriving planet Earth for centuries to come. Ari is the author of “Longpath: Becoming the Great Ancestors Our Future Needs.”

Listen in to hear how Ari defines longpath, how we should be examining our own futures, and more.

Topics We Discuss:

• [2:19] Longpath is a verb in the sense that it’s an applied mindset. Most people think of a futurist as someone who is projecting into the future; Ari isn’t that type of futurist, he doesn’t predict. Longpath is a way of navigating those intertidal moments, those moments that are chaotic and in flux. 

• [11:22] Using the word “surviving” automatically trips the limbic system, and in that moment we become very short-term thinkers. When we become more fear-based in our approach, we become laser-focused on what’s in front of us. But we need to be thinking of the far future in these moments of chaos. 

• [21:32] First and foremost, figure out who you are. How did you get to this point? Ari talks about desired futures versus examined-desired futures. No one is born thinking they should be a doctor or race car driver. A lot of these pathways are culturally forced onto people. Before you can start to think about what future you want to live in, you have to step back and examine what got you thinking that way in the first place.

• [32:09] When we had the Copernican revolution, it led us to more human freedom and enlightened thinking, but we eradicated the vibrational, mystical realm. We said if you can measure it, great; if you can’t, it’s terrible. In this intertidal moment we’re realizing we can have both.

• [37:52] Think of ourselves less in a 100-yard race and more in a marathon in which we’re holding the baton for the next generation. We need to T-up the next generation so they’re that much higher up on the ladder when it comes to flourishing. This will have us thinking less as individuals and tie us to a more extensive timeframe.

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