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The Art of Not Having an Endgame (ft. Todd Fadel)

The Art of Not Having an Endgame (ft. Todd Fadel)


Season 3 Episode 21


Todd Fadel is our guest this week. He is an individual whose life experiences defy easy categorization. He was the lead singer of a Star Wars-themed side project to Tooth and Nail grunge band Sometim…


Published on 9 hours ago

The Prayer Trade Apocalypse (ft. David Dark)

The Prayer Trade Apocalypse (ft. David Dark)


Season 3 Episode 20


David Dark is a life-long Nashvillian and an admitted member of what he calls "The Prayer Trade" as a professor of religion and the arts at Belmont University. In 2002 he published his first book, "E…


Published on 1 week ago

Delirious vs Nirvana (ft. Gabriel Wilson)

Delirious vs Nirvana (ft. Gabriel Wilson)


Season 3 Episode 19


The English worship band Delirious (technically Deliriou5?) certainly changed church music and probably influenced a young Chris Martin of Coldplay, but was their lasting impact on music bigger than …


Published on 2 weeks ago

The CCM to Ska Pipeline (ft. Aaron Carnes)

The CCM to Ska Pipeline (ft. Aaron Carnes)


Season 3 Episode 18


Aaron Carnes is an expert on ska, but is self-aware enough that his book (and podcast) are called In Defense of Ska. Like Christian rock, when folks admit to liking ska they often brace for being moc…


Published on 3 weeks ago

Music at the Charlie Kirk Memorial (ft. David Gate and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis)

Music at the Charlie Kirk Memorial (ft. David Gate and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis)


Season 3 Episode 17


The Charlie Kirk Memorial in Arizona was a singular event that blended religion and politics in powerful ways. It featured a lot of Christian music. Brandon Lake, Chris Tomlin, Phil Wickham, Kari Job…


Published on 4 weeks ago

Live From The Trenches: Leah and Andrew Check In

Live From The Trenches: Leah and Andrew Check In


Season 3 Episode 16


After 15 weekly episodes in season 3, Leah and Andrew chat about what else they've been up to this fall, what episodes they've especially enjoyed this season, and what they're looking forward to in u…


Published on 1 month ago

The Discourse Meets Carman (ft. Chris DeVille)

The Discourse Meets Carman (ft. Chris DeVille)


Season 3 Episode 15


Chris DeVille wrote the book on the indie rock boom (Such Great Heights: The Complete Cultural History of the Indie Rock Explosion), but before he became a self-confessed "indie snob" he was a willin…


Published on 1 month, 1 week ago

1985: The Critical Year of CCM (ft. Tim Dillinger)

1985: The Critical Year of CCM (ft. Tim Dillinger)


Season 3 Episode 14


In 1985 the Contemporary Christian Music industry reached a cultural height it would never regain. That's the basic case that Tim Dillinger has been making lately in his Substack, God's Music Is My L…


Published on 1 month, 2 weeks ago

K-LOVE's Tradecraft (ft. Katie Thornton)

K-LOVE's Tradecraft (ft. Katie Thornton)


Season 3 Episode 13


Katie Thornton loves radio. Her series The Divided Dial has delved into conservative talk radio and shortwave. It won a 2023 Peabody Award. And her piece for Rolling Stone, "Jesus Take The Dial" goes…


Published on 1 month, 3 weeks ago

Ozzy Osbourne, Christian Rocker (ft. Jason P Woodbury)

Ozzy Osbourne, Christian Rocker (ft. Jason P Woodbury)


Season 3 Episode 12


Ozzy Osbourne died in July. He was memorialized as the "Prince of Darkness" and was a key figure during the Satanic Panic of the 1980s. But our guest Jason P Woodbury points out that Osbourne's geniu…


Published on 2 months ago





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